Discussion:
update on Wayland and the installer
David Shea
2016-02-25 16:01:26 UTC
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Summary: don't do anything.

Wayland by default is a goal for F24 Workstation
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefault), and if all
goes right, then the Workstation live installer will be running on
Wayland. We don't need to do anything for that to happen. We should keep
an eye out for anything that might be going weird with anaconda running
on Wayland (any of the places where we use Gdk functions directly
deserve a look), but that's it.

For non-live media, the consensus is to just leave things the way they
are for F24. X is not going away, and X is still necessary as a fallback
for certain cases, so for boot.iso/netinst just keep using X. We can
give this a closer look post-F24. If we do decide to switch to Wayland
post-F24, that would mean at the least swapping out metacity for
gnome-shell running in kiosk mode (like how gnome-initial-setup runs).
Al Dunsmuir
2016-02-25 16:55:31 UTC
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Post by David Shea
Summary: don't do anything.
Wayland by default is a goal for F24 Workstation
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefault), and if all
goes right, then the Workstation live installer will be running on
Wayland. We don't need to do anything for that to happen. We should keep
an eye out for anything that might be going weird with anaconda running
on Wayland (any of the places where we use Gdk functions directly
deserve a look), but that's it.
For non-live media, the consensus is to just leave things the way they
are for F24. X is not going away, and X is still necessary as a fallback
for certain cases, so for boot.iso/netinst just keep using X. We can
give this a closer look post-F24. If we do decide to switch to Wayland
post-F24, that would mean at the least swapping out metacity for
gnome-shell running in kiosk mode (like how gnome-initial-setup runs).
A number of the desktops (such as Mate) are often used for systems
with older video that is not supported by Gnome3. For those, the
simpler solution of X11 may be the only workable one.

Al
Chuck Anderson
2016-02-25 20:08:00 UTC
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Post by David Shea
Summary: don't do anything.
Wayland by default is a goal for F24 Workstation
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefault), and if
all goes right, then the Workstation live installer will be running
on Wayland. We don't need to do anything for that to happen. We
should keep an eye out for anything that might be going weird with
anaconda running on Wayland (any of the places where we use Gdk
functions directly deserve a look), but that's it.
Unless it changed in the last week, liveinst can't run as a non-root
user due to consolehelper not working with Wayland.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1274451
Martin Kolman
2016-02-26 12:29:19 UTC
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Post by David Shea
Summary: don't do anything.
Wayland by default is a goal for F24 Workstation 
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefault), and if
all 
goes right, then the Workstation live installer will be running on 
Wayland. We don't need to do anything for that to happen.
What about libxklavier ? That's used for keyboard handling & depends on
X AFAIK.
Post by David Shea
We should keep 
an eye out for anything that might be going weird with anaconda
running 
on Wayland (any of the places where we use Gdk functions directly 
deserve a look), but that's it.
For non-live media, the consensus is to just leave things the way
they 
are for F24. X is not going away, and X is still necessary as a
fallback 
for certain cases, so for boot.iso/netinst just keep using X. We can 
give this a closer look post-F24. If we do decide to switch to
Wayland 
post-F24, that would mean at the least swapping out metacity for 
gnome-shell running in kiosk mode (like how gnome-initial-setup runs).
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